social security and medicare, as the record shows we did, i think that was mean-spirited. when we terminated 400,000 desperate, hopeless, defenseless americans who were on disability -- confused and unable to defend themselves, and just laid them out on the street, as we did for 4 years, i don't think that's what america is all about. america is a fair society, and it is not right that vice president bush pays less in taxes than the janitor who helps him. i believe there's fundamental fairness crying out that needs to be achieved in our tax system. i believe that we will be better off if we protect this environment. and contrary to what the president says, i think their record on the environment is inexcusable and often shameful. these laws are not being enforced, have not been enforced, and the public health and the air and the water are paying the price. that's not fair for our future. i think our future requires a president to lead us in an all- out search to advance our education, our learning, and our science and training, because this world is more complex and we're being pr

security and medicare and student assistance and the handicapped again as you did last time? if you'd just tell us what you're going to do, then the american people could compare my plan for the future with your plan. and that's the way it should be. the american people would be in charge. >> mr. president, the most outrageous thing your opponent has said in the debate tonight? >> well, now, i have to start with a smile, since his kind words to me. i'll tell you what i think has been the most outrageous thing in political dialog, both in this campaign and the one in '82. and that is the continued discussion and claim that somehow i am the villain who is going to pull the social security checks out from those people who are dependent on them. and why i think it is outrageous -- first of all, it isn't true. but why it is outrageous is because, for political advantage, every time they do that, they scare millions of senior citizens who are totally dependent on social security, have no place else to turn. and they have to live and go to bed at night thinking, "is this true? is someone going to

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